canadamike
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Post by canadamike on Nov 16, 2012 14:34:52 GMT -8
Last Christmas I got a wonderful e-mail.
One year prior to the mail, a french farmer teaching organic agriculture had called me for potatoes that were resistant to bacterial wilt, a plague in that part of the world apparently. 2009 had been the year of the potato for the UN, and they were trying to grow some.
I had none with that description, there were some in GRIN, but then, with the quarantine and so on...those villagers were sure NOT to eat any potatoes for quite a few years.
So I recommended them that he innoculated the tubers with efficient microorganisms, Tom and I discovered them in Morlaix while touring France....
They did, and for the first time could harvest them.
I call it the ''NO VACANCY'' principle: fill the hotel with good people and there is no room for the bad ones ;D
I will order e-ms next spring since we now have them in the country...it is something worth exploring more...
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Post by dkelly on Nov 17, 2012 16:51:59 GMT -8
Is Em a combo of bread yeast, yoghurt culture and a green bacteria?
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Post by Tom Wagner on Nov 17, 2012 18:24:22 GMT -8
Thanks, Michel, for reminding me of our conversations in France. I have probably forgotten way too much for my own good. I am not in the comfort zone of working with the endophytic bacterial since I am so busy with other work ...work that never seems to get finished as it is. That said...here are my comments to date.... Endophytic Bacteria Beneficial bacteria interact with plants by colonizing the rhizosphere and roots followed by further spread through the inner tissues, resulting in endophytic colonization. Bacterial wilt (Ralstonia solanacearum) This disease occurs with bad drainage, especially in the hot, wet season and is often combined with symptoms of root-knot nematodes. Plants wilt and die suddenly. When newly infected stems are cut crosswise and placed in water, a greyish or yellowish ooze appears from the cut stem. The pathogen is soil-borne with a wide host range. Root-knot nematode infestation aggravates the disease development. Bacterial Wilt severely limits the production of seed potatoes and chemical controls are not effective. BW can be in tomatoes, peppers, eggplant, tobacco, and peanuts. It is quite the problem in parts of Asia, Africa, Central and South America. Quarantined potato production of tubers is necessary but could be greatly helped with the TPS in isolated shade houses in those areas to produce BW tubers free of the bacteria and especially helpful if BW resistant lines are utilized. In those areas where BW is a problem, I would suggest trialing advanced clones to determine resistance and then testing TPS seedling families for individual successes and then follow up with increased growing of the selected clones from TPS for commercial production. Muruta is a variety that I promoted as TPS for control of BW. I am near out of TPS seed at this moment. However, phureja clones should show lots of promise. Crosses between tuberosum and phureja is the angle best suited for obtaining big populations of tuber families with resistance….. clones 720118, 800212, 800223 and 800224 were the most tolerant. These clones are products of crosses between S. phureja parents (resistant to bacterial wilt) and tuberosum. I have lots of TPS seed of crosses of 720118… Cruza (CIP-720118) had low bacterial wilt severity and incidence and were rated tolerant, whereas the other cultivars were rated moderately susceptible or very susceptible. And…most of these crosses of Cruza 148 are to clones adapted to my locale. I will take some time maybe to look up the other BW resistant clones that I may already has TPS of. Bacterial wilt symptoms on potato plants. The first visible symptom on foliage is a wilting of the leaves at the ends of the branches during the heat of the day with recovery at night. As the disease develops, a streaky brown discoloration of the stem may be observed on stems 2.5 cm or more above the soil line, and the leaves develop a bronze tint. I have sent Muruta TPS to a couple of tropical locations for testing this winter. Hope to hear back from the fellows there later next Spring at the latest.
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Post by canadamike on Dec 1, 2012 21:53:41 GMT -8
EMs are a complex of 80 different life supporting bacterias and yeasts.
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Post by Tom Wagner on Dec 1, 2012 23:32:10 GMT -8
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Post by Tom Wagner on Dec 1, 2012 23:51:51 GMT -8
Anybody with experience with this product? What does the labeling say for EM·1®? "Organic Materials Review Institute Listed"
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Post by wingnut on Dec 2, 2012 8:54:11 GMT -8
I had a friend use it for awhile. I don't think he uses it anymore......what does that tell you? Maybe to help remediate abused soil conditions.
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Post by dkelly on Dec 3, 2012 9:22:47 GMT -8
Here is what I would like to see... Some good old fashioned agar plate challenge tests against the bad guys (fusarium, ralstonia, ect...) That usually makes me a believer. I can't afford to use something that does not have specific and clear results backed by specific and clear science.
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Post by canadamike on Dec 4, 2012 22:44:41 GMT -8
Tom, this is EXACTLY what they used in Africa to rid the fields of the bacterial problem. And if you remember well, when in Morlaix, the last day, this is what they give me to (mostly) rid me of the awful toothache I had.
The good guys fought against the bad ones in my mouth and it would relieve me of the worse of the pain for a while...I did not have enough for the whole trip, sadly...
It has all sorts of use, including fermenting fruit and vegetable juice, I can buy european ( german) juices in my organic heath store made with that. If I am not wrong, they also use it for bokashi.
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Post by Tom Wagner on Dec 5, 2012 0:08:46 GMT -8
Since my potting soil and field amendments to the soil for potatoes and tomatoes already includes mycorrhyzals...to benefit the funal populations...I should include the EM-1 in next year's trials. I wonder if I could use a combo of the mycorrhyzals, EM-1, Serenade or Bacillus subtilis...the latter ones good for controlling blackleg and soft rot in potatoes... I should feed the soil before the soil feeds me problems. [[/b] Microbial Inoculant, commonly referred to as EM, can be added to hydroponic liquid feeding programs to enhance overall crop quality and the post-harvest shelf life. Improved plant vigor and tissue density in tomatoes and lettuces are a result of the numerous enzymes, organic acids, bioactive minerals, amino acids, and diverse antioxidants that are the byproducts of EM, which are absorbed through the root systems. The microbial alliances of EM concentrate along the plant root surfaces and create important symbiotic associations similar to mycorrhizae- root symbiosis. EM•1® Microbial Inoculant helps increase the nutrient uptake potential and efficiency, while reducing plant stress that can be caused by high levels of available nutrients. The microbial alliances of EM concentrate along the plant root surfaces and create important symbiotic associations similar to mycorrhizae- root symbiosis. EM•1® Microbial Inoculant helps increase the nutrient uptake potential and efficiency, while reducing plant stress that can be caused by high levels of available nutrients.[/quote] Oh, and BTW....here is CanadaMike in France excited about something he pulled from the shore. Yes, I took the picture...
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Post by Tom Wagner on Dec 5, 2012 0:32:09 GMT -8
I found this picture of myself and Blanche near Morlaix France...simply by Google searching Morlaix house built 1492....thanks to CanadaMike.
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Post by dkelly on Dec 5, 2012 9:02:33 GMT -8
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Post by canadamike on Dec 8, 2012 23:24:31 GMT -8
Very interesting...so, depending on how you read it, it works or not....it would work if one did put less nitrogen fertiliser in whatever form. Very very interesting.
I doubt very much that the sugars in the molasses would invite the diseases. I know plenty of organic farmers spraying molasses,and I do so myself, adding it to mixes. The dilution rate is way too high to cause problems in my mind, and we are not talking bacterias but ascomycetes anyway.
Too much nitrogen is an open door for these diseases, with a big ''WELCOME, FREE BOOZE AND FOOD'' sign...whatever is responsible for this nitrogen surplus.
But there is no doubt in my mind this stuff is or should be primarily devoted to soil remediation.
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Post by janetjacobson on Feb 10, 2024 5:59:44 GMT -8
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