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Post by graybell on Jan 27, 2011 15:55:09 GMT -8
Inca Gold is a potato offered by Ronninger. Well it was but is sold out. I read somewhere that this is a particular type of potato in that it will continue to produce tubers up the stem as long as you keep hilling up around it. Do some potatoes do this and others only produce a certain amount up the stem and then quit no matter how much you bury the plant? That has been my experience. I read that with potatoes like this one (Inca Gold) you can grow 300 pounds in a 4x4 area as long as you continue to extend the box upward and backfill. Any comments would be appreciated. Gray
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Post by wmontanez on Jan 27, 2011 16:29:35 GMT -8
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Post by thefuture on Jan 28, 2011 10:55:55 GMT -8
Did Inca Gold set seed for you?
What other varieties are known to have this trait?
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Post by Tom Wagner on Jan 28, 2011 22:21:36 GMT -8
Inca Gold, huh? Supposed to be Inka Gold, but who is to quibble?
Anyway, it seems I get close to various kinds of potatoes over a period of time and almost become part of the history of some potatoes.
I called my friend, Wallace, down in Lodi, California today. He wasn't home but I talked with his daughter and left my number and email addy for him to get back with me. I remember that both Wallace and I played around with Inka Gold back in the 90's. I gave Wallace some similar types of potatoes and I kinda think Royal Andes and Mama Amarilla are a couple I gave him to try against the Inka Gold (Inca Gold). I will verify that tomorrow maybe.
Anyway, Wallace is 80 years old now and we shared much in our enthusiasm for potatoes. Here is a quote from a website bragging about Wallace's potato varieties....
I then called Carlos Quiros to touch base with him. He is about to retire, but he seemed to be such a young man twenty years ago. He gave me permission to make a public info about Inka Gold. Here is his email to me just today......
Hello Tom
Best of luck
Carlos F. Quiros Professor Department of Plant Sciences Mail Stop 3, 116 Asmundson U. of California Davis, CA 95616
I will send Carlos a link to this forum when I get done here. Obviously the Valisa crosses to Inka Gold are likely dropped. Too bad.....way too many promising clones are vanishing without someone like me to introgress the new varieties into yet newer ones. If it can't be grown on hundreds of acres...they drop them cold.
Where would we be on this forum if we did not allow some history to be told? Here is an attachment Carlos sent me.
Carlos sent me a diagram of the cross but I will repeat the pedigree in such a way that even I can understand.... Y245.7 (4n) female tuberosum with virus Y resistance carried as heterozygous (YYyy) was crossed to male parent 84S10 (2n) S. phureha with virus Y resistance carried as a heterozygous (Yy). The resulting seedling clone is 89S104-4 used below as a female in yet another cross.
89S104-4 =4n (YYYy) x `Mi Peru' (4n) andigena (YYYy)
...and this cross creating the clone Inka Gold (89S493) (YYYY) The (YYYY) means it probably is homozygous for deep yellow/orange flesh.
In California, virus Y was considered a must in the 90's since the fiasco of Cal-White's extreme susceptibility to Y cause untold loss of money for growers. It was A76147-1 back before they go clean seed of it for a formal release.
Testing as of 1995:
Ahem, notice the mention of me back then. I am a link to many discussions about potatoes simply because I have been, indeed, close to many potato varieties; one way or another. The Tater Mater Forum is akin to a book being written in real time, and the valuable time I take off from my other work is worth it in some small way.
As far as breeding with Inka Gold...I have....... but since I had many similar clones, the direct pedigrees are buried in an avalanche of parental material. As my memory serves me, I had better clones than Inka Gold, but maybe I could get a few from Wallace again.
Thank you , Carlos, for allowing me to put your information out for others to read.
Tom Wagner
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Post by Tom Wagner on Jan 28, 2011 23:00:14 GMT -8
Just a note to myself mostly, but the male parent of Inka Gold is not just andegenum since Mi Peru has a male parent of tuberosum background. Therefore, the Inka Gold is near 50% tuberosum
MI PERU, a cross of CHATA NEGRA DE HUASAHUASI x GRATA, released in PERU, 1982, CIP
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Post by graybell on Jan 31, 2011 17:50:36 GMT -8
Thanks all so much for the reply. wmontanez sorry for the misquote, it is 99 lbs. in the 3x3. Is this possible and do you need some special potato. Thanks Tom for all the history. Very interesting, and keep up the good work. I like reading a book written in real time. Please let me know when your potatoes can be purchased. thefuture I have not grown inka gold yet so I do not know if it will flower. Tom on Mama Amarilla it says no dormancy keeps growing. Is this the trait that might allow 99lbs in 9sq. feet? Thanks Gray
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Post by Tom Wagner on Jan 31, 2011 18:37:45 GMT -8
I am trading a few of my varieties with Wallace Condon of Lodi....hopefully I will have all three of his Inka gold types...including the Royal Andes, and Mama Amarilla.
I talked on the phone with Wallace and he said he hasn't had berries for a very long time since he is using more organic fertilizer the last years. I will see if I can get some crosses made this year.
As far the Mama Amarilla working in 3 by 3 to produce 99 lbs.....the lack of dormancy could be a problem...the older tubers would break dormancy too early and the sprouts would produce plants ruining the first batch of tubers, making the 3 x 3 later by at least two months than a regular potato.
The site has been launched for my potatoes and tomatoes and a few other crops...waiting to see if it works well enough to talk about yet.
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Post by DarJones on Feb 11, 2011 9:34:40 GMT -8
I grew Inca Gold in 2009. Production was poor, flavor was good. Otherwise, it was not remarkable.
DarJones
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Post by Tom Wagner on Feb 11, 2011 17:42:45 GMT -8
The Inca Gold (Inka Gold) is one of those varieties stuck in the Heirloom category and will be bouncing around for some time to come. The varieties that never really took off are, nevertheless, time pieces - and younger folks than I will want to know what people thought of these obscure varieties----from the first releases, the present time, and in the future.
I probably won't keep in ones I get from Wallace for long. Just long enough to get some TPS in some crosses with better production especially. As long as I have bred potatoes....it seems there is always someone asking if such and such variety is any good, and how they can get it....more or less implying that it must be better than anything I have. I just hope to have TPS of just about anything that comes along.
Tom
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