Post by canadamike on Oct 3, 2010 22:37:29 GMT -8
Here are pics of some of Tom's maters I grew. I do not have time to comment a lot, I am so busy I have to write at night, but we will be able to discuss them later.
At least the pictures are a good starting point.
MAKE MY DAY X OSU BLUE.I have tomatoes marked as MMD x OSU B and others as OSU B x MMD. Tom, is it a mistake of me or did you do the cross both ways? Personnaly I am under the impression that OSU was mainly used as a mother due to poor pollination, but maybe I made a boo boo here while transcripting. Please chip in.
I'll let them go as MMD x OSU for the ,moment, we can correct later.
There is a LOT of blue in the crosses I got.
THE WINDOW DRESSING MYSTERY
That one was real fun. But I am confused. Tom, you always indicate at which stage the cross is. I supposed WD was stable, given there was no filial number coming with it, but my Window Dressing turned out to be the fun thing in the garden, I had 4 different looking maters on 4 plants, and 3 different sts of flesh colors. Bee revolution on the way???
First, let me show you the flesh of 2 quite similarly looking pointed tomatoes, one with more yellow in the look. I did not identify these myself, they were picked by a volunteer of the museum to provide me with tomatoes for supper. One per plant, about 7 or 8, enough for 2 people. I have NO DOUBT they are in my Window Dressing bunch, but I cannot officially swear, not having been around for picking....but I went there after and anyway they were the only ones of that sort of look.
So here are the 2 different flesh colors. As I said, from the xterior, they look dang similar, the yellow stripes on a red background creating some confusion in the eye ( if I can say so in english ) ...
Bicolor flesh
Red flesh
Both are sweet and with enough gel and seeds to give them a better taste than gel-less tomatoes.
The first plant in the row. The most ''usual'' looking one
The most extraordinary tomato plant of this year garden, in the sense of ''out of the ordinary''.
There were 2 of my Window Dressing plants that were rugose and quite dwarf looking at the plantlet stage in the cell packs. I put them at the opposite and southern end of the row so they would not get as overcrowded by the other plants and get sun. This one, giving kind of blackish tomatoes, very sausage like, was only one foot high AND ONLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 2 FEET DIAMETER PLANT. Kind of pyramid shape if you will. It nevertheless always looked extremely healthy, strong and sturdy. To my outmost surprise, this perfect pot plant produced LOADS of tomatoes, hanging mostly in buches of 5 that I would pick with one hand. I got a full grocery store bag in one shot of these beauties, leaving about one fourth of the crop on the ground due to rot, we were experiencing record rains. We still are ...
The ones on the pictures are not the ripest ones, they were too damaged to photograph, you have to understand I am dealing with a huge garden, food bank pickings and so on, not counting other breeding projects. At the time of shooting I regretted not to have taken the pictures 3 days earlier. One little negative thing, they tend to ripen uneavenly, with green patches. But theflesh inside is well colored even when they still look unripe They really look like a black sausage tomato. And the taste is definitely there.
WINDOW DRESSING, Long Legs Edition...AKA Betty Grable ;D VERY GOOD AND PRODUCTIVE, the other plant that looked dwarf when small, although it turned out not so much, but nevertheless well contained STILL loads of tomatoes hanging by bunches of 5 that one can pick with one hand.
The last WD I have has not been taken in pictures yet, it is in my house ripening, the first batch was given to the food bank, I had no time to document it so why loose it. It is a small pointed with more ''zebra'' character than the others. In fact, I should say the last 2, the plants were neighbours and it was hard to know which was which visually as I said, but do not worry, seeds of both types were saved. Pictures will come later.
OSU BLUE x MAKE MY DAY
These produced average sized fruits for me, quite far from the size of the MMD F-3. But very tasty.
MAKE MY DAY F-3
This cross is a winner. It gives 3 types of maters, pale pink, bicolor or yellowish. The yellowish always has some pink line in it for me. The bicolor is very fruity and pleasing to the eye.
I usually DO NOT like beefsteaks, they do not have enough gel for me, but this one is GOOOOOOOD. I have to say that a lot of food professionals have seen Tom'S MMD crosses and that all were excited by the size of the tomato. I, on the other hand, am excited by the production of such a compact plant. It almost looks like a truckload of pumpkins attached to a broomstick.
I only have the bicolor here, my camera is an 8 hours drive away, but I am going there back soon, so you should get the pink version too soon.
Tom, I need your help here. This one was labeled GREEN ZEBRA x MAKE MY DAY, but I strongly suspect human error. Either me or one of the many volunteers weeding during the summer might have misplaced a displaced sign post while weeding or else, look at the blue here...
It sure looks more like an OSU and MMD cross, and the size is slightly bigger than my other ones, although nowhere close to MMD.
That OSU xGreen Zebra cross caught the eye of a french chef this summer, he simply love the very different color combination. It has a good mild non acidic taste. But it taste better than the whites. And the color pattern is so surprizing. I feel like calling it PLUOT, like the plum-apricot cross we love so much. It resembles it more than any tomato I have seen. It definitely has the most eye catching power I have seen in quite a while, it would be right at its place in an impressionist painting. IMPRESSIONIST PAINTING...that might also be a good name for it
NEW GREEN ZEBRA: In what is she new Tom?
SWEET CASSADY
Hugely productive uber-rooter, rooting even from the fruit trusses in moist condition and -or on the ground. Ans tasty too for a cooking tomato. Or is it really a cooking one, aren't we prisoneers of tomato shapes?
Bicolor Cherry
I have other pictures to take...I have to admit, I am not much of a technology freak and NOT forgetting to bring the camera is a challenge. I am so used to...not take pictures. I bought a good camera and hope I will get it in my system to always cary it. I have missed many this year, especially in the cherry family, but I promise I will do everything to stop being old and get in tune with our times
At least the pictures are a good starting point.
MAKE MY DAY X OSU BLUE.I have tomatoes marked as MMD x OSU B and others as OSU B x MMD. Tom, is it a mistake of me or did you do the cross both ways? Personnaly I am under the impression that OSU was mainly used as a mother due to poor pollination, but maybe I made a boo boo here while transcripting. Please chip in.
I'll let them go as MMD x OSU for the ,moment, we can correct later.
There is a LOT of blue in the crosses I got.
THE WINDOW DRESSING MYSTERY
That one was real fun. But I am confused. Tom, you always indicate at which stage the cross is. I supposed WD was stable, given there was no filial number coming with it, but my Window Dressing turned out to be the fun thing in the garden, I had 4 different looking maters on 4 plants, and 3 different sts of flesh colors. Bee revolution on the way???
First, let me show you the flesh of 2 quite similarly looking pointed tomatoes, one with more yellow in the look. I did not identify these myself, they were picked by a volunteer of the museum to provide me with tomatoes for supper. One per plant, about 7 or 8, enough for 2 people. I have NO DOUBT they are in my Window Dressing bunch, but I cannot officially swear, not having been around for picking....but I went there after and anyway they were the only ones of that sort of look.
So here are the 2 different flesh colors. As I said, from the xterior, they look dang similar, the yellow stripes on a red background creating some confusion in the eye ( if I can say so in english ) ...
Bicolor flesh
Red flesh
Both are sweet and with enough gel and seeds to give them a better taste than gel-less tomatoes.
The first plant in the row. The most ''usual'' looking one
The most extraordinary tomato plant of this year garden, in the sense of ''out of the ordinary''.
There were 2 of my Window Dressing plants that were rugose and quite dwarf looking at the plantlet stage in the cell packs. I put them at the opposite and southern end of the row so they would not get as overcrowded by the other plants and get sun. This one, giving kind of blackish tomatoes, very sausage like, was only one foot high AND ONLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 2 FEET DIAMETER PLANT. Kind of pyramid shape if you will. It nevertheless always looked extremely healthy, strong and sturdy. To my outmost surprise, this perfect pot plant produced LOADS of tomatoes, hanging mostly in buches of 5 that I would pick with one hand. I got a full grocery store bag in one shot of these beauties, leaving about one fourth of the crop on the ground due to rot, we were experiencing record rains. We still are ...
The ones on the pictures are not the ripest ones, they were too damaged to photograph, you have to understand I am dealing with a huge garden, food bank pickings and so on, not counting other breeding projects. At the time of shooting I regretted not to have taken the pictures 3 days earlier. One little negative thing, they tend to ripen uneavenly, with green patches. But theflesh inside is well colored even when they still look unripe They really look like a black sausage tomato. And the taste is definitely there.
WINDOW DRESSING, Long Legs Edition...AKA Betty Grable ;D VERY GOOD AND PRODUCTIVE, the other plant that looked dwarf when small, although it turned out not so much, but nevertheless well contained STILL loads of tomatoes hanging by bunches of 5 that one can pick with one hand.
The last WD I have has not been taken in pictures yet, it is in my house ripening, the first batch was given to the food bank, I had no time to document it so why loose it. It is a small pointed with more ''zebra'' character than the others. In fact, I should say the last 2, the plants were neighbours and it was hard to know which was which visually as I said, but do not worry, seeds of both types were saved. Pictures will come later.
OSU BLUE x MAKE MY DAY
These produced average sized fruits for me, quite far from the size of the MMD F-3. But very tasty.
MAKE MY DAY F-3
This cross is a winner. It gives 3 types of maters, pale pink, bicolor or yellowish. The yellowish always has some pink line in it for me. The bicolor is very fruity and pleasing to the eye.
I usually DO NOT like beefsteaks, they do not have enough gel for me, but this one is GOOOOOOOD. I have to say that a lot of food professionals have seen Tom'S MMD crosses and that all were excited by the size of the tomato. I, on the other hand, am excited by the production of such a compact plant. It almost looks like a truckload of pumpkins attached to a broomstick.
I only have the bicolor here, my camera is an 8 hours drive away, but I am going there back soon, so you should get the pink version too soon.
Tom, I need your help here. This one was labeled GREEN ZEBRA x MAKE MY DAY, but I strongly suspect human error. Either me or one of the many volunteers weeding during the summer might have misplaced a displaced sign post while weeding or else, look at the blue here...
It sure looks more like an OSU and MMD cross, and the size is slightly bigger than my other ones, although nowhere close to MMD.
That OSU xGreen Zebra cross caught the eye of a french chef this summer, he simply love the very different color combination. It has a good mild non acidic taste. But it taste better than the whites. And the color pattern is so surprizing. I feel like calling it PLUOT, like the plum-apricot cross we love so much. It resembles it more than any tomato I have seen. It definitely has the most eye catching power I have seen in quite a while, it would be right at its place in an impressionist painting. IMPRESSIONIST PAINTING...that might also be a good name for it
NEW GREEN ZEBRA: In what is she new Tom?
SWEET CASSADY
Hugely productive uber-rooter, rooting even from the fruit trusses in moist condition and -or on the ground. Ans tasty too for a cooking tomato. Or is it really a cooking one, aren't we prisoneers of tomato shapes?
Bicolor Cherry
I have other pictures to take...I have to admit, I am not much of a technology freak and NOT forgetting to bring the camera is a challenge. I am so used to...not take pictures. I bought a good camera and hope I will get it in my system to always cary it. I have missed many this year, especially in the cherry family, but I promise I will do everything to stop being old and get in tune with our times