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Post by Tom Wagner on Aug 18, 2009 7:58:58 GMT -8
PI 294442 - Solanum lycopersicum - Gruntovii Gribovskii - Israel --
4-6 oz., 2 1/2 inches, 4 locules, oblate, red, determinate, fairly productive
One of several tomatoes I requested from Grunt and Grungy.
Even though I don't think this variety is anything special, I did cross a couple of fruits to the P-20 Blue. Sometimes the only way to make an obscure variety come to life is to cross it with something unique. One afternoon I just went down the rows of tomatoes crossing P-20 Blue to anything that had a flower.
It would be nice to know how this Eastern European named tomato got to Israel. If it were for the fact of a Jewish family going to live in Israel brought the seed with them or what, I dunno.
Since so many things can be Googled, maybe someone searching for this name can enlighten me on new information on the history or what they think of the fruit. I am going to see how long it takes for my entry here to show up on Googling.
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Irina
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Post by Irina on Oct 9, 2009 14:17:33 GMT -8
Dear Tom, the first - Thank you so much for a beautifull workshop in Wien! I'm glad to be helpful with the history of Gruntovii Gribovskii. This ist Tomatovariety from very good russian Breeder Alpatjev. I think that you have Gruntovii Gribovskii 1180 (another one is Gruntovii Gribovskii 2046). It was breeded during 30-er -40-er last century and one of parents is tall Variety with big fruit Lutschij iz vseh (The best of all).
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Post by Tom Wagner on Oct 10, 2009 10:27:49 GMT -8
Irina,
Thanks for posting on the tatermater forum and thank you for your comments about one of my many workshops in Europe and Vienna in particular.
I will research Alpatjev when i get back to the states
Tom
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