Lange Ærmer

[jayb]

I'm just wondering if Lange Ærmer has any varigated leaved varieties in it's background? One of my plants is quite colourful and I'm not sure if it is fluke or meant to be?

[Tom Wagner]

No, Lange Ærmer does not have variagate foliage in the background.

This variety came about through the segregations of a cross between my original version of GREEN SLEEVES and BRANDY STRIPES. I was trying to get a version of GREEN SLEEVES with an indeterminate growth habit and 6 inch long fruits...green with green stripes. This selection did not have potato leaves nor woolly pubescence.

Trying to type Æ is troublesome but here is the key to do that as below...holding down the alt key and typing 0198 and release.

ALT+0230 = æ
ALT+0198 = Æ

After doing a Google search I noticed that I was going to release that variety officially but it appears mostly as a teaser...see the list below.
newworldcrops.com/wp/uncategorized/tomato-seeds-available-this-year/#comments

[jayb]

Thanks for the reply Tom. It is a very pretty vine with or without varigated leaves. I'd been wondering how to get the name right! Fruits for me aren't quite that long, but last year I thought it was a lovely tomato, so beautiful to look at and the taste is full of flavour, sweet and delicious. Can't wait until they are ripe.

I'll add a couple of pictures once I remember how!

[jayb]

Some of last year's fruits


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This year's fruit and leaf colour patern.


1-059 by jayb 35, on Flickr

[Tom Wagner]

Yes, I see the variegation. I should request a small seed sample to see if I can get the leaf pattern again for me.

Thanks for the picture and especially the comments on the flavor.

BTW, I just noticed that my six inch fruited line was from a plant just last year and your seed preceded that from a 2010 plant. The reason for selecting for a long fruit type was to match the LANGE ÆRMER name...meaning long arm in my mind.

[jayb]

I should imagine a plant loaded with 6 inch fruits is a fabulous sight.

It would be super if the varigation recurs, I'll be happy to save some seeds for you. Though on tenderhooks here as L Blight is particularly widespread this year. Lost most of my crop of potatoes including many tps earlier on this year. I'm hoping I still may have a selection of mini tubers, time will tell.

[jayb]

As an update, I started some seeds and all the seedlings developed some variegation although it only looks to appear on some of the leaves. I don't know if it would look more or less if grown summer time? I've kept one plant growing (pictured) but I think I'll run out of space for it before spring!


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[gvozdika]

Tom, what do you mean by "long arm"? A sleeve or an arm as a body part? Thank you.

[gvozdika]

Sorry for such a silly question. Both languages are foreign to me. Could you please kindly resolve the confusion? Is it "Long Sleeve" or "Long Arm"? Your time is greatly appreciated. Thank you!

P.S. So glad to find this board. I'm interested in growing tomatoes in containers.
Irina

[Tom Wagner]

Listen to the melody of Greensleeves as you can find the above link on the wiki. The melody always struck me as one of the most memorable and pleasant of any.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greensleeves

Sorry for such a silly question. Both languages are foreign to me. Could you please kindly resolve the confusion? Is it "Long Sleeve" or "Long Arm"?

LANGE ÆRMER ...long arm is taken from my naming of the Green Sleeves..an ancestor..and sleeves..arms...what difference does it make. The use of the spelling is my choice as just calling a tomato ...Long Arm...doesn't sound so nice and memorable.

I like to use different languages for naming fruits and vegetables. I used to use the Manx language a lot in the past and will likely use it even more in the future. Liauyr Laue would be long arm in Manx. My grandfather Kaighin would have know that since he was one of the last native speakers of Manx.

[gvozdika]

Thank you very much for the clarification! So, it means a sleeve (now, I wonder if the leg in Banana legs means a "pant"
This is not so much about the choice of words but what they mean. It can be confusing when a word can have several meanings and you are not very familiar with idioms. I like the names you use for your tomatoes, just wish I could understand what they mean For example, what does Yamali mean? Is there a place where I can find the answers for such questions?
Thank you very much again and thank you for the link to Greensleeves, I love this melody, tried to learn to play it on my recorder before, should try again

PS I'm digging through this board and find a lot of interesting information. Would love to relay some of it (especially about saving tomato seeds) to Russian tomato-people at tomat-pomidor.com. Would it be OK?

[Tom Wagner]

Yes, Banana Legs is like a pant leg....and I make allusions to yet similar terms as mnemonic strategies as my memories need connections.

Yamali is a combination of three given names of the children of the fellow on this board who tried my Green Zebra x Blue OSU segregations. Ya..... Ma.... and Li.... and this explanation is somewhere on the forum.
I made oodles of crosses this season with several Yamali Blue selections...all from selections made in France. I did it for many reasons...mostly because of the expected nature of the hybrid expressions I will expect.

The melody of Greensleeves is hauntingly beautiful and I appreciate your learning to play the music.

Go ahead and share anything you learn here on www.tomat-pomidor.com ....I read a few page on the translated version...
www.freetranslation.com/translation.html#!/505037985fe01ac20407b818/505037985fe01ac20407b7fb/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tomat-pomidor.com%2F

[gvozdika]

Tom, thank you so much for the explanation, your time and, of course, your tomatoes! I'll try to get some of this useful information to my fellows at tomat-pomidor.com with all the links to explore. Your tomatoes are quite popular in Russia. I have not grown any of them yet, but looking forward to. 
Your work is very inspiring. Just thank you so so much!

Here are some links from tomat-pomidor.com that have a few pictures of your tomatoes:
Green Zebra
Green Grape
Cream Sausage
Banana Legs
Banana Legs

[Tom Wagner]

Thanks for the links to some of my varieties. I tried to register to be able to post but got hung up on the CAPTCHA request....tried twenty times. I wouldn't mind being a member there but I would have to post in English. If you want me there maybe you could translate for me?

Interesting picture of my Banana Cream on the site...even though it is as Cream Sausage.


Kees Sahin changed my name for it back in 1996 in the Netherlands without my knowledge or approval.

[gvozdika]

That will be so great! I can help with translating! Left a message for the admin of tomato-pomidor.com but it is a nigth time right now. 
Here is the registration page for the site. It has a small word problem at the end (what is one hundred plus one?) and the last button says "Register".

 
This is a link to the forum about tomato varieties, a good place to start a thread.
I will be glad to help with anything, my nickname is the same there, gvozdika. Thank you!
Irina