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Post by thefuture on Feb 26, 2011 14:46:12 GMT -8
Alki blue is showing as available on the site but not so when added to the cart. Is it sold out?
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Post by Tom Wagner on Feb 27, 2011 13:23:41 GMT -8
Alki Blue is sold out, unfortunately. The PayPal button is set up for handling a preset number of sales and then it doesn't allow one to order.
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Post by Jonathan B on Mar 1, 2011 8:25:47 GMT -8
So, I am eagerly awaiting a package from Tom and Rob with all 58 types of TPS offered so far. In the meantime, I am curious if any more TPS releases are planned for this season
Any idea what percentage of your TPS germplasm is represented by these first 58 varieties? I realize there is a certain amount of redundancy (e.g., crosses and recrosses traceable back to the same parents), but I was wondering if there are any major "lines" yet to be released.
Thanks, Jonathan
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Post by wildseed57 on Mar 1, 2011 19:27:10 GMT -8
You guy and gals are sure lucky getting Toms TPS, I won't have room this year, but I will next year for sure. They do sound very interesting. My brother can't wait, for spring so he can get out and work in the garden, I found a site where I can bid on a good Camera, and maybe a Lab top, so that I can document everything. I'm looking forward to spring also, next week I have to start my first round of seeds mostly my pepper and tomato seeds that I have already. I have to call my nephew, so I can pick the area I want plowed and tilled, I'll have to mark it all out and pound in some stakes, after that I have to run over to Baker's Creek to get some lettuce and melon seeds. So I will be pretty busy the next few weeks, I don't mind though. George W.
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Post by Tom Wagner on Mar 2, 2011 8:12:27 GMT -8
Yes, I will be writing up some more descriptions and those will be showing up eventually on the website newworldcrops.com Less than 1 %. Redundancy? I suppose. For example Smiley Blue and Quarter Master are out of my Quarter Blue. These two lines represent varieties that are fecund. Fecundity is the ability to reproduce. I would say that in my grow outs of 100,000's of seedlings from TPS over the last 58 years that truly fecund lines are rare. It is with my intervention and acquisition of unusually fecund lines and continued breeding with them that I convert poor berry makers into progenies with greater and greater fecundities. A very small percentage of the world's commercial potato varieties would be called profuse berry makers, and many of those so described are pikers compared to my many lines that are prodigious to say the least. Speaking of redundancies, my TPS lines for sale on my website are diverse but the full sibs Minnie's Pig and Minnesota Duroc, offer unique opportunities to re-align tetraploid and diploid parental material. Funny names, I know.....what's with the pig naming? The two clones were crosses of an early red skinned, yellow flesh line from Minnesota (MN 19298) and a deep yellow fleshed diploid I called (High Yellow Pigment) or Pig for short. Both hybrids ....Minnie's Pig and Minnesota Duroc...were profuse berry makers and the recombinant TPS should offer great versions of the outstanding parents....one an adapted northern clone and the other adapted Peruvian style clone. Rather than offer true potato seed of MN 19298, which produces berries for me, I wanted to offer some true divergence of genetic material by adding the diploid background. Both MP and MD are tetraploids. For the record MN19298 seen here... www.ars.wisc.edu/hanthingy/potatoes/potatoes2004/PDF%20Files%202004/MN19298.pdfor MN 19298 MN 19298 is not released yet by Dr. Thill but is in tissue culture and pre-nuclear tuber production. Funny how I grow things 7 years ago and they are yet to be released? Are there 'major' lines yet to be released out of my work? Oh, yes! But I will never be able to list all of them. Many are TPS in such a few number that I need them for myself to sow. And for the others, who would want to read through a list of thousands and thousands of pedigree crosses? I have focused on the lines that I have sufficient seed of OP background and will later go into my hybrid seed stocks. I can offer more seed of OP material per packet than I can of hybrids, and TPS is so new to most folks....that a bit of time must elapse before I get too technical. This forum... tatermater.proboards.com .... is dedicated to informing people about my work with 'taters' and 'maters' and it allows anyone to join in with the various topics I bring up or others bring up. Tom Wagner
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Post by thefuture on Mar 2, 2011 9:35:56 GMT -8
This is very interesting.
What is a "piker"?
I for one am hoping there is a delay in making more seeds available (sacarsm alert). That way, my budget won't be busted! Jonathan B appears to be beating me with the number of varieties ordered....and second place just won't do!
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Post by joseph on Mar 2, 2011 13:43:10 GMT -8
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Post by wildseed57 on Mar 4, 2011 12:50:40 GMT -8
Hi Tom and Rob, Besides the facts that TPS means you can grow directly from seed and not tubers, cutting the cost in shipping and that you are able to get various colored lines most of which are rare. I was wondering about nutrition, basically protein and minerals compared to standard tubers. Also is there a better way to prepare them rather than boiling where most of the nutrients is lost through boiling. I have a bad habit of frying most of my potatoes, I assume that baking or Nuking them would be the best way and go from there? George W.
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Post by thefuture on Mar 4, 2011 13:51:17 GMT -8
this sounds like a good concept to apply for grant monies for testing purposes.
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Post by Tom Wagner on Mar 4, 2011 14:39:57 GMT -8
Applying grant money to evaluate new potato varieties as regards to maintaining valuable nutrition is, indeed, something that I would like to do soon.
I should re-write my research data and collate it with compiled data on potato nutrition.
My work with potatoes that cook in far less time and thereby hold more nutrition is but one of the ways to address this. But I really want to revolutionize potato consumption by bringing along potato varieties that can be eaten raw along with other salad items like raw carrots, broccoli, radishes, etc. The types that Peruvians eat raw are similar to my Skagit Vally Gold and that is why I will be pushing this variety and the offspring
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Post by thefuture on Mar 6, 2011 4:02:48 GMT -8
I've heard of people eating raw sweet potato but not raw potato. Interesting. The question is, how do you know what can be eaten raw?
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Post by wmontanez on Mar 6, 2011 7:28:39 GMT -8
Squat orange is sold out! Tom, have you sent the tps my way?
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Post by joseph on Mar 6, 2011 8:28:15 GMT -8
I've heard of people eating raw sweet potato but not raw potato. Interesting. The question is, how do you know what can be eaten raw? Potato poison is a well behaved poison. It tastes exceedingly nasty to humans. And not just a little nasty. Ever tasted a potato that has turned green by being exposed to light? That's the taste.
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Post by gardensquare on Mar 8, 2011 7:54:18 GMT -8
Ok, just learning and looking.. Is the point that all potatoes Tom offers are seed pod possible? if so then THIS IS IT! Sounds like what I've spent the past week searching for. I'd love to find some of the "closer to phureja" varities. I would also love to find: salad blue, sheland black, congo, witch hill & desiree. Can anyone recommend a link to update me as to why we cannot purchase potatoes from the UK? Thanks!
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Post by joseph on Mar 8, 2011 8:09:45 GMT -8
Is the point that all potatoes Tom offers are seed pod possible? if so then THIS IS IT! Sounds like what I've spent the past week searching for. Last growing season I planted 13 varieties of Tom's potatoes. One produced an abundance of berries. One produced some berries. A few produced one or two berries. Most didn't produce any berries. I'll plant the tubers from them. It's possible that a tuber might produce berries when a seedling didn't. (With the usual caveat: In my garden. Results may vary in other gardens.)
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