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Post by graybell on Jan 18, 2012 8:50:34 GMT -8
A friend gave me seed from a 4 pack of tomatoes he bought at the grocery. It had the name komato on it. I have done search and found out some about it. He liked the tomatos. I have some growing now. The seedlings appear vigourous and healthy. Anyone grown this one?
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Post by Tom Wagner on Jan 19, 2012 0:23:59 GMT -8
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Post by graybell on Jan 19, 2012 7:19:23 GMT -8
thanks Tom interesting read.
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Post by graybell on Jun 9, 2012 11:45:48 GMT -8
Here is an update on kumato. I saved seeds from a kumato bought at walmart.
I am growing about 8 plants. This would I guess be f2 generation.
Overall I am very pleased. The plants display some variation in phenotype. The fruits however have been very consistent in appearance and taste.
We love them. My market customers love them. One plant got severe early blight. One plant is huge and beautiful with loads of fruit that are the last of all the plants to ripen.
Most are in between these two with really good production. I am going to save the f3 generation and see how they do for fall tomatoes.
I am wondering if sun gold cherry tomato would do the same. It is a very delicious and popular fruit. My wife really likes it. We are going to save the seed. But wondering if anyone has already done this.
Also does anyone have any comment on what I might expect on the f3 of kumato. Thanks Gray
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Post by GunnarSK on Jun 11, 2012 12:38:45 GMT -8
There are people growing Kumato F2 in Poland and reporting on it, but they have F2 and are of course very far from OP. I think Reinhard Kraft has an OP sun gold cherry tomato, which is distributed stateside by Carolyn (Male). It might be interesting to Mark McCaslin (Frogsleap Farm), that Kumato has the "rin" gene. I suppose he might use it in his breeding. I think quite a few people will be interested in your F3 Kumatos.
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Post by graybell on Jun 28, 2012 9:02:39 GMT -8
Further update. This is a producing tomato. I have plants that produced 50-60 tomatoes on each plant. These fruits will stay on the plant a long time with out going bad. They just ripen and ripen. They also sit in the house forever just ripening and not going bad. Great tomato for markets if your market likes them. I have had dozens of compliments about this tomato first over many varieties that I like better personally. I have not had anyone who doesnt like it. I am going to put some if the refrigerator and see how long they keep. Gray
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Post by keri on Jan 23, 2014 6:18:36 GMT -8
Glad to know that you have had some luck growing these. I bought some and was thinking of saving seed. also here is a wiki article I found on them. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumato
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Post by keithp2012 on Apr 4, 2014 20:19:48 GMT -8
I saved seed from purple kumato, next year every plant had red fruit with faint green striping. Taste was the same though.
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Post by farmurray on Jul 22, 2015 11:43:56 GMT -8
i have two tomato plants growing from seed taken from a grocery store KOMATO...one grows a similar tomato to its parent from the store but the tomato is smaller and the other one is growing even smaller tomatoes of a roma shape...my first ready to eat tomato was the komato this year and it tasted much better than its hydroponic parent...this fruit has a really good chance of being the only type of tomato i might grow next season...i am in central British Columbia
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Post by crazybean on Jul 24, 2015 0:44:00 GMT -8
Most probably taste of the parents is due to taking unripe fruit and let it mature in warehouse (perhaps with aid of some gasses). There is nothing wrong with hydroponic growth of tomato's.
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Post by ilex on Jul 27, 2015 14:14:26 GMT -8
I think parents of Kumato are very closelly related, so even if it's a hybrid, most don't notice if they grow the seeds.
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Post by nathanp on Jul 27, 2015 14:30:32 GMT -8
I read somewhere that it isn't even a hybrid, but is just marketed that way to discourage seed saving.
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Post by Tom Wagner on Jul 28, 2015 10:55:30 GMT -8
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kumatoes 'Kumato' is a trade name given to a patented[1] cultivar of tomato developed in Spain called 'Olmeca', which went by experimental number SX 387. It is grown in Spain, France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Greece, Turkey, The Isle of Wight Canada and Australia by specially selected growers.[2] 'Kumato' is a standard size tomato cultivar weighing between 80 and 120 grams. It is firm, with a color ranging from a green to reddish brown or purple, varying in flavor from almost no flavor, to sweeter than typical tomatoes due to a higher fructose content.[3] Unlike other tomato cultivars, seeds cannot be purchased by the general public. Syngenta[4] has stated that they will never make 'Kumato' seeds available to the general public as the 'Kumato' tomato is grown under a concept known as a club variety, whereby Syngenta sells seeds only to licensed growers that go through a rigorous selection process, and participation is by invitation only. Syngenta maintains ownership of the cultivar throughout the entire value chain from breeding to marketing; selected growers must agree to follow specified cultivation protocols and pay fees for licenses per acre of greenhouse, costs of the seeds, and royalties based on the volume of tomatoes produced. Typically, Syngenta licenses only one large vertically integrated greenhouse producer per country that has well established relationships with grocery chains. The introduction of 'Kumato' into the marketplace has spurred the interest of both consumers and plant breeders. Through a similar growing club concept, Dulcinea[5] introduced the 'Rosso Bruno' tomato.[6][citation needed][verification needed] As the 'Kumato' is a hybrid, planted seeds will not necessarily grow plants identical to the parent.
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Post by Tom Wagner on Jul 28, 2015 10:57:55 GMT -8
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Post by graybell on Aug 1, 2015 8:01:57 GMT -8
I have been growing kumato for 4 years now from seed gotten out of the grocery store bought tomato. Actually I got them in a 5 pack at walmart.
This tomato has performed excellent for me. I have grown at least 36 different plants, and though there is some variety as Toms description says above, I have never gotten Roma shaped tomatoes. I have plants now that are f4 and they still grow pretty much true to 3 or 4 phenotypes that are very similar.
It is a high yielding plant and loves my climate. It is one of our favorites.
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