Finding unusual potato varieties

[Tom Wagner]

Anyone ever see any of these from suppliers in the U.S.?

www.jbaseedpotatoes.co.uk/sea...=&o=2&a=Search

This is a tough question to answer. Many varieties are grown in the United States but many are not readily available to backyard gardeners. Either the growers are tied up with licensing restrictions or Material Transfer Agreements, etc. It takes a few years for quarantine to allow some varieties to be imported. The only one in the Scottish list commonly available here is the Pink Fir Apple or Rose Finn Apple as we call this clone here.

In order to educate folks on waxy potatoes and maybe drum up some demand for them, I have modified the link to the site mentioned in the first post. Simply click on the More Info link to learn more about this wonderful class of potato texture. (Edit Note:The blue hyperlink did not transfer, sorry!)
I have personally tried 12 of the varieties listed below with a asterisk.

Waxy potato varieties in Scotland: 44


Arran Comrade
More Info

Arran Pilot*
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Balmoral
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Blue Belle
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Cardinal
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Carlingford
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Charlotte*
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Doon Pearl
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Dunluce
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Edgecote Purple
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Epicure*
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International Kidney
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Kestrel*
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Lady Christl
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Marfona
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Maris Bard
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Maris Peer*
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Maxine
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Mayan Twilight*
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Nadine
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Nicola*
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NVS Amour
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Osprey
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Pentland Javelin*
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Pentland Lustre
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Picasso*
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Pink Fir Apple*
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Pixie
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Premiere
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Rocket*
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Romano*
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Romeo
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Saxon*
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Stemster
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Stroma
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Swift
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Tuskar
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Ulster Prince
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Ulster Sceptre
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Ulster Sovereign
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Vales Sovereign
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Vanessa
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Wilja
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Witchill
More Info

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The most concise way of finding out if there is, or could be, a supplier in the United States is to look at a fairly complete list of varieties being certified within the 14 states with potato programs. Here again I will add an asterisk (*) to those I have either grown or have used in breeding.

2009 A fairly comprehensive list of varieties certified in the United States

A0012-5
503-32
806-32
807-37
914-25
915-25
A093487-2R
A84180-8 2*
A88338-1
A91814-5
A93104-2
A95109-1 *
A96104-2
AC96052-1R
AC97521-1R
AC99375-1R
AF2291-10
Adirondack Blue*
Adirondack Red*
Adora *
Agata
Alaska 114*
Alaska Frostless*
Alaska Red*
Alaska Sweetheart*
Albane
Alegria
All Blue *
All Red *
Allagash *
Allegany *
Allian
Allianz
Alpine Russet*
Alturas *
Ambra *
Amey Russet*
Ampera
Andover **
Annabelle
Anoka *
Anuschka
Apolline
AOA95154-1*
AOND95249-1
AR98-9
ATND94873-1RY
Argos *
Asterix
Atlantic *
Augusta
Austrian Crescent*
Avalanche *
B0766-3 *
Baby Boomer
Bake-King *
Banana *
Bannock Russet*
Beacon Chipper*
Bellarosa
Belrus *
Bildtstar
Bintje *
Blazer Russet*
Blushing Belle
Bora Valley *
Butte *
BRAGG05011
BRAGG 0507
BRAGG 0508
BRAGG CB34
Cal Red *
Cal White *
Canela Russet
Caribe *
Carlingford
Carola *
Carrera
Cascade *
Castile *
Cecile
Cekin
Centennial Russet*
Century *
CF7521-3
Chieftain *
Chipeta *
Chippewa *
Ciklamen *
Classic Russet*
Clearwater *
Colorado Rose*
Crispin *
CL63-84
CO86107-1 *
CO86218-2R (Durango Red)*
CO94035-15RU
CO95051-7W *
CO95172-3RU
CO96141-4W
CO97043-14W
CO97065-7W
CO97087-2RU
CO97215-2P/P
CO97222-1R/R
CO97226-2R/R*
CO97227-2P/PW
CO97232-1R/Y
CO97232-2R/Y
CO97233-3R/Y
CO98012-5R
CO98067-7RU
CO98368-2RU
CO99045-1W/Y
CO99053-3RU
CO99053-4RU
CO99076-6R
CO99100-1RU
Cobbler *
Cowhorn *
CW 2912
Cyrano
Dakota Crisp*
Dakota Diamond
Dakota Jewel*
Dakota Pearl*
Dakota Rose *
Defender *
Denali *
Denar
Desiree *
DT6063-1R (Cherry Red)*
Early Ohio *
Early Rose *
Early Valley*
Elba *
Elfe
Eliza
Emergo
Envol
Eramosa *
Europrima
Eva *
Exempla
Fabula
Flaming
Fontane
Freedom Russet*
French Fingerling*
Frito-Lay Varieties*
Frontier Russet*
Gala
Gemchip *
Gem Russet *
Gemstar Russet*
Genesee *
German Butterball*
Gogu Valley *
Golden Amey *MY OWN VARIETY
Golden Sunburst*
Goldrush *
Granola *
Green Mountain*
Gui Valley *
Hampton *
Harley Blackwell
Highland Russet
Hilite *
Huckleberry *
Ida Rose *
Iditared *
Innovator *
Irish Cobbler*
Island Sunshine*
Ivory Crisp *
IDRN-111
IDRN-218
IDRN-285
IDRN-90
Itasca *
Jacqueline Lee*
Jelly
Jemseg *
Juice Valley*
Juliette
Justa
Kallaska
Kanona *
Kasoag Gold *
Katahdin *
Kerrs Pink *
Kennebec *
Kenita
Keuka Gold *
Keystone Russet*
King Harry (NY131)*
Knik *
Lambada
La Chipper *
La Ratte *
Langlade *
Latona
Laura
Lehigh *
Lord
Magic Molly *
Mainestay *
Makah Ozette*
Marcy *
Marilyn
Maris Piper *
Markies
Mazama *
Megachip
Melody
Michigan Purple*
Milva
Miscellaneous
Modoc *
Molli *
Mondial *
Monona *
Monticello
Mountain Rose*
MSH228-2*
MSJ126-9Y *
MSJ147-1
MSL228-1 *
MSQ070
ND4659-5R
ND5002-3R
ND8555-8R
NDC5281-2R
NDTX4271-5R
Natasha
Nicola *
Norchip *
Nordic October* MY OWN VARIETY
NorDonna *
Norland "Dark Red"*
Norland "Nebraska"
Norland "Red"*
Norland "Red-Strain"
Northern October* MY OWN VARIETY
NorValley *
Norwis *
NY E-1145*
NY079 *
NY115 *
NY118 *
NY121 *
NY129
NY136
NY138
NY139
NY140
NY141
Oman
Onaway *
Ontario *
Opera
Papa Cacho *
PA99N2-1
PA99N82-4
POR01PG12-5
POR01PG16-1 *
POR02PG4-2
POR0PG21-1
POR03PG25-2
POR03PG59-3
POROO4PG97342
POROPG16-1
Palmona Blanca*
Patagonia
Peanut *
Penta *
Peter Wilcox
Piccolo
Picco De Oro
Pike *
Premier Russet*
Prairie Blush
Princess
Provento *
Puren
Purple Fingers
Purple Pelisse*
Purple Majesty*
Purple Peruvian*
Purple Valley*
Purple Viking*
Puyehue
Rania
Ranger Russet*
Ranger Russet "Amisk"
Reba *
Red Cloud *
Red Desire
Red Gold *
Red LaSoda *
Red Pontiac *
Red Sunset
Red Thumb *
Reddale *
Redsen *
Redstar
Remelve
Rideau *
Rio Colorado
Rio Grande Russet
Romanze
Rosara *
Rose Finn Apple "Pink Fir Apple"*
Rose Gold *
Rote Erstling*
Russet Burbank*
Russet Burbank 'Id Strain"
Russet Burbank "MT Strain"
Russet Burbank "NY Strain"
Russet Burbank 70B
Russet Norkotah*
Russet Norkotah LT
Russet Norkotah Strains
Russet Norkotah Sel 112*
Russet Norkotah Sel 223
Russet Norkotah Sel 278
Russet Norkotah Sel 296
Russet Norkotah Sel 8*
Russet Norkotah Sel 3*
Russian Blue*
R87009-28
R90070-8
R90160-5
R91129-11
RA16-5
RA82-4
RA8943-50
RC72-35
Russet Nugget*
Salem *
Sangre *
Sangre Sel 11
Sangre & Strains
Sassy
Satina *
Sebago *
Shepody *
Shepody "ID Strain"
Sierra Gold 1*
Sierra Gold 2
Sierra Gold 3
Sifra
Silverton Russet*
Sylvana SCH96-14
Snowchip *
Snowbird
Snowden *
Snowden (NE Strain)
Sunrise *
Superior *
Superior (NY strain)
Tachapi
Tara
Taebok Valley*
TX1523-1 *
Tizia
T10-12
Umatilla Russet*
US 250-97
US 285-97
US 584-99
US 766-99
UW Breeding Lines
Ute Russet *
Valor *
Victoria *
Viking *
Viking Purple*
Villetta Rose*
Vivaldi *
W2133-1
W-2324
Western Russet*
White Rose *
Willamette *
Yagana *
Yellow Finn *
Yema De Huevo*
Yukon Gem *
Yukon Gold *
ZH-1
ZH-2
ZM#13-1
Zebra

I have grown and tasted many varieties of potatoes, probably as many as just about anyone else, however it would take me a month of Sundays to report here on all the flavors and textures therein.

I took a bit of time to show some detail on what I grow because as a potato breeder, I like to think that my crosses of many of the above list will be important in the future. My objective is to have TPS to get even more diversity among the many potato clones.

Tom Wagner

[pugs]

Tom,

Have you seen the Red Thumb fingerling that Territorial seed is offering this year? Is it one of yours? I'll be ordering some of them to try this year.

Link: www.territorialseed.com/product/11922/seed_potatoes

Pugs

[Tom Wagner]

Pugs, thanks for joining in again.

stores.myregisteredsite.com/user1433018/mm5/graphics/00000001/Red%20Thumb-D.jpg

Above is typical of a photo of Red Thumb potatoes. Although it is fairly popular it simply is not red enough for most people. They want red-red flesh, not a pale pink that does not cook up pretty. I can't recall the history of it, but I do know that some of my red fleshed lines were in the heirloom trade and outside of my control. I understand that my Atzi-Red was grown for a while, but I don't know if anyone has it now.

Among some of the varieties of red/red that I would suggest over Red Thumb would be Papa Cacho, a peruvian line brought in through quarantine back in 1998. I have been growing it for a while and I think it is a good fingerling. As I increase this clone and offer it, I will have to honor the MTA as well as I can.

Material Transfer Agreement

The germplasm was provided to the NPGS by the International Potato Center (CIP) where it is held in trust under the terms of an agreement with FAO. As per terms of the FAO-CIP agreement, it was provided with the understanding that it is freely available for any agricultural research or breeding purposes. No recipient can claim ownership over the germplasm received or obtain Intellectual Property Rights on it or related information. Recipients may reproduce the material and distribute it to other parties provided they are also willing to accept the conditions of this agreement. The material is supplied expressly conditional on acceptance of the terms of the FAO-CIP agreement. The recipient's retention of the material constitutes such acceptance.

Now.... I have had better ones but I can't keep all of the clones in my breeding work. I am hoping to get a crack resistant Skagit Beets like Canada Mike has with his Rose de Lucine, which is a derivitive of SB.

Tom Wagner

[xnavynuke]

Probably doesn't help those in the U.S., however if you are in Europe you may want to contact the woman who runs this site.

Potato Perspective

XNN

[Tom Wagner]

Thanks, Xnavynuke, for posting and joining the group.

www.potatoperspective.org/content.php?page=activities
is a sub site of the link you so kindly offered for us to peruse. The first picture of that link shows some Andean style potato tubers much like what I am producing from true potato seed TPS. I will try to contact Åsa Sonjasdotter and commend her for her perspectives. I will have to relate to Åsa that I spent a lot of valuable time with the Danish Seed Savers and well as the German Seed Savers.

One of the things I was trying to pursue while in Europe this past September and October was to shore up the need for independence in food, seeds, and varieties. A grower/breeder like me should be able to share with farmers anywhere to compete with the large multi-national seed monopolies.

So, Xnavynuke, where do you stand on freedom to grow the diversity of potato varieties, whether domestic or Andean?

Tom Wagner

[xnavynuke]

Jan 9, 2010 22:34:46 GMT -8 Tom Wagner said:

Thanks,
So, Xnavynuke, where do you stand on freedom to grow the diversity of potato varieties, whether domestic or Andean?

Tom Wagner

I'm big on diversity for two reasons.

First, every cultivar has a history. Some short and some long. That's important for me and my wife. She is part Seminole and Shawnee. I have a half dozen Pyrus accessions that I grafted from scions obtained through the USDA GRIN. Personally, I think it's kinda cool to have part of a disembodied pear tree that was from the time of Roman Emperors.

Second, and more important to my analytical side, diversity in crops has the greatest potential to optimize net yields in agriculture. I've been a disciple of H.T. Odum ever since college. As a Senior project I used his Emergy analysis method to compare sustainability of pre-WW2, 1990, and Three Sister approach to corn production and saw the math firsthand.

XNN

[Tom Wagner]

Howard T. Odum. Known for the fields of:
Ecological economics, ecological engineering, Emergy, Maximum power principle, Systems ecology

The most significant thing I can find on the internet is that my encouragement of plant breeding under organic systems is fairly close to what Odum aspired to. Namely....

a potato is made of sunlight and oil

In other words, he feels that we have depended on Oil and related products are an un-natural part of the ecology of crop production. Agreed, but so much of the work of Odum is too far fetched for me to understand in a few minutes reading.

I appreciate the challenge to understand your background, but I am simply afraid that most will not take the time to understand Odum much.

Tom Wagner

[xnavynuke]

Jan 10, 2010 20:53:15 GMT -8 Tom Wagner said:

In other words, he feels that we have depended on Oil and related products are an un-natural part of the ecology of crop production. Agreed, but so much of the work of Odum is too far fetched for me to understand in a few minutes reading.

I appreciate the challenge to understand your background, but I am simply afraid that most will not take the time to understand Odum much.

Tom Wagner

Understandable. The best layman representation of his ideas comes from a Mother Earth News competition (the old "Real" MEN). MEN 1978: AN ENERGY ANALYSIS OF THE DAN TAYLOR FAMILY'S OZARK FARM The only thing that I don't like about the on-line version is they left off the diagram that is being described. I have a scan of it from one of Odum's books, but can't post it here because of copyright issues. I could PM it I suppose.

XNN